Thursday, June 23, 2005

Durbin followup

One conservative commenter writes about my Durbin post:

Thoughts from Kansas doesn't think Durbin should apologize. There are no al Qaeda at Camp X-ray, just cab-drivers [sic]. I worry about Josh; he seems headed in the same direction as Cory Zimbleman:

The only way they'll ever be proven right is to stand up and demand to be heard. Every day, bump up the rhetoric, so it makes the evening news every day. Talk about Iraqi generals who surrendered and where then killed by being used as a trampoline. Talk about mothers being forced to watch as soldiers rape their children.

That's right folks--US military raping children and stomping Iraqis to death.
I never said anything about cab-drivers, so I don't know what that's about. As for what I take to be sarcasm about child rape and stomping deaths, let's roll the tape from the post-Abu Ghraib document dumps.

Seymour Hersch from a speech originally reported by the NY Sun:

Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out.
He made similar statements on Charlie Rose and in other interviews.

In testimony taken by General Taguba:

I saw [name blacked out] fucking a kid, his age would be about 15-18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [blacked out], who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid's ass," Mr Hilas told military investigators. "I couldn't see the face of the kid because his face wasn't in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures."
In a New York Review of Books article from 2004, Anthony Lewis reports the death of Major General Abed Hamed Mowhoush, chief of Iraqi air defenses.

He died after a month in custody.

At first, the Pentagon released a death certificate saying that he had died of 'natural causes.' But after a Denver Post story questioned the circumstances of his death, the Pentagon admitted that an autopsy report said General Mowhoush died of "asphyxia do to smothering and chest compression" and said there was "evidence of blunt force trauma to the chest and legs. …

Another Iraqi officer, Lieutentant Colonel Kareem 'Abd al-Jalil, died on January 9, 2004, while at an interrogation facility. The original death certificate said he died of 'natural causes … during his sleep.' After stories in the Denver Post and on German television indicationg that American soldiers had "danced on his belly," the Pentagon issued a new death certificate describing his death as a homicide from "blunt force injuries and asphyxia." Those two were regular Iraqi officers, not terrorists. In American history, until now, flag and field officers of opposing armies were given great respect when captured.
I also don't appreciate the veiled threat in the Zimbleman reference. The first line in the linked article is:

Cory Zimbleman is dead.
I don't see what that adds to the conversation.